Hi. I’m 5 minutes into the episode and giving my thoughts, as requested. Those thoughts, which I shall share with you post-haste, are the following conclusions that my brain has concluded will be of value to you, those being: Man, it’s great to hear y’all once again.
You wouldn’t believe how beyond excited I was to see a notification from AIO Audio News for the first time in years. Of course I’d drop everything (hope that milk doesn’t spoil) and listen. Old habits die hard. (Oh, sorry to mention a Christmas movie before Thanksgiving.)
My renown review on the Revinews is still formulating… I’ll come back with the Revirevinew when it finializes.
Finished listening to this! I have questions and also thoughts… lol
To be honest, it’s been a while since I heard this specific episode, but my main thoughts are on the legitimacy of the apology. Definitely appreciated both you and Ryan’s thoughts on this!
1) For me, this apology does seem legitimate, and it may be how I’m hearing it. Whit apologizes to Emily, telling her he didn’t appreciate how the entire experience would affect her. When I hear this, the subtext I hear is: “I’m sorry, I did not think all this through. In the moment, I thought it would have a good impact. But I did not think critically about the implications this would have for you. I should have, and I didn’t. This has hurt you deeply, and I’m sorry for not thinking ahead before doing this.” In my perspective, while Whit is apologizing for the pain this has caused to Emily, it’s not just an “I’m sorry you were hurt” but rather “I should have considered how this would affect you. I did not. Now that I see the impact, I realize that my actions were wrong.” Apologies are always messy, but for me, this apology seemed legit. But I also think…
2) Apologies can be messy, because humans are messy. Whit is a human. It’s ok if his apology isn’t perfect, because he is human. We already know (through his relationship with Jana) that taking responsibility for past mistakes is hard for Whit. So if we allow Whit to be a dynamic character rather than a static one (which, admittedly, he usually is), this apology can represent growth for Whit, even if it’s not exactly perfect.
3) Abigail Geiger is my new favorite writer for Odyssey. She tells excellent stories, but more than that, the characters she writes for come to life. She gives them–even the somewhat static characters (Whit, Jay Smouse, etc.)– a depth of personality that feels so authentic in a way that really reaches both to our generation, and the next ones. I have a feeling that her input in the writing process has added a new layer of quality to the rest of the writers’ work as well.
4) “True Ending?” What’s that supposed to mean? Is the true ending of my “true source for Adventures in Odyssey news & reviews,” or this is the true ending, the ending we finally hoped for, of the Rydell saga? I guess I’ll just keep listening…
AHHHH! I was so incredibly happy to see this in my podcast feed when I checked yesterday!
This is most definitely my all-time favourite AIO podcast, and up there with my favourite podcasts of, well, ever.
I agree with most if not all of your discussions surrounding Rydell so far, and it’s certainly controversial, so I always like to hear what you have to say since not many others are brave enough 😅
Anyway, thanks so much for both of these amazing, 1hr+ long episodes! I almost want to save them so that I have them for longer…
Thanks Sarah, I appreciate your thoughts quite a bit. There’s more on the way as far as our long-winded reviews go, so I’d love to hear your feedback on the next few ones as they come out. We recorded them two years ago and they’re long overdue…
Hi. I’m 5 minutes into the episode and giving my thoughts, as requested. Those thoughts, which I shall share with you post-haste, are the following conclusions that my brain has concluded will be of value to you, those being: Man, it’s great to hear y’all once again.
I knew you would be the first reply. XD
You wouldn’t believe how beyond excited I was to see a notification from AIO Audio News for the first time in years. Of course I’d drop everything (hope that milk doesn’t spoil) and listen. Old habits die hard. (Oh, sorry to mention a Christmas movie before Thanksgiving.)
My renown review on the Revinews is still formulating… I’ll come back with the Revirevinew when it finializes.
Currently listening! So glad to see this is happening…
HI TIMMY
Hi! Welcome back to the world of Odyssey!
Finished listening to this! I have questions and also thoughts… lol
To be honest, it’s been a while since I heard this specific episode, but my main thoughts are on the legitimacy of the apology. Definitely appreciated both you and Ryan’s thoughts on this!
1) For me, this apology does seem legitimate, and it may be how I’m hearing it. Whit apologizes to Emily, telling her he didn’t appreciate how the entire experience would affect her. When I hear this, the subtext I hear is: “I’m sorry, I did not think all this through. In the moment, I thought it would have a good impact. But I did not think critically about the implications this would have for you. I should have, and I didn’t. This has hurt you deeply, and I’m sorry for not thinking ahead before doing this.” In my perspective, while Whit is apologizing for the pain this has caused to Emily, it’s not just an “I’m sorry you were hurt” but rather “I should have considered how this would affect you. I did not. Now that I see the impact, I realize that my actions were wrong.” Apologies are always messy, but for me, this apology seemed legit. But I also think…
2) Apologies can be messy, because humans are messy. Whit is a human. It’s ok if his apology isn’t perfect, because he is human. We already know (through his relationship with Jana) that taking responsibility for past mistakes is hard for Whit. So if we allow Whit to be a dynamic character rather than a static one (which, admittedly, he usually is), this apology can represent growth for Whit, even if it’s not exactly perfect.
3) Abigail Geiger is my new favorite writer for Odyssey. She tells excellent stories, but more than that, the characters she writes for come to life. She gives them–even the somewhat static characters (Whit, Jay Smouse, etc.)– a depth of personality that feels so authentic in a way that really reaches both to our generation, and the next ones. I have a feeling that her input in the writing process has added a new layer of quality to the rest of the writers’ work as well.
4) “True Ending?” What’s that supposed to mean? Is the true ending of my “true source for Adventures in Odyssey news & reviews,” or this is the true ending, the ending we finally hoped for, of the Rydell saga? I guess I’ll just keep listening…
Brings me back to 2020 for Audio News to return
AHHHH! I was so incredibly happy to see this in my podcast feed when I checked yesterday!
This is most definitely my all-time favourite AIO podcast, and up there with my favourite podcasts of, well, ever.
I agree with most if not all of your discussions surrounding Rydell so far, and it’s certainly controversial, so I always like to hear what you have to say since not many others are brave enough 😅
Anyway, thanks so much for both of these amazing, 1hr+ long episodes! I almost want to save them so that I have them for longer…
Thanks Sarah, I appreciate your thoughts quite a bit. There’s more on the way as far as our long-winded reviews go, so I’d love to hear your feedback on the next few ones as they come out. We recorded them two years ago and they’re long overdue…